Is the U.S. Finished?

December 9, 2008

Soon after the government’s initial $700 billion bailout, one of my elder relatives sent along this:

“More than 200 years ago, while the original 13 colonies were still part of Great Britain, Professor Alexander Tytler wrote of the Athenian republic, which had fallen 2,000 years earlier:

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.  Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.”

Is it true?  Yes and no.  If you want to believe it, yes, there is evidence that several nations have been through the cycle.  But some have escaped it, and clearly, the 200-year figure is a big round number, and not etched in stone for any nation.

Also, there is no proof that Tytler, a Scottish historian who lived from 1747 to 1813, wrote it … or anything similar to it!

The closest Tytler came to it is this: “It is not, perhaps, unreasonable to conclude, that a pure and perfect democracy is a thing not attainable by man, constituted as he is of contending elements of vice and virtue, and ever mainly influenced by the predominant principle of self-interest. It may, indeed, be confidently asserted, that there never was that government called a republic, which was not ultimately ruled by a single will, and, therefore, (however bold may seem the paradox,) virtually and substantially a monarchy.”

Nevertheless, if you want to believe America’s best days as a democracy have passed, there’s plenty of evidence today.

Economically, we’re behind the 8-ball.  Our country’s debt is now 340% of GDP.  Seven percent of mortgages were delinquent at the end of the third quarter; the number is even larger today.

Morally, much of the country is bankrupt, not least many of the politicians who profess to lead us.

Politically, we’re at the mercy of two parties who care more about wielding power than serving the country.

Educationally, we have a long tradition of failures in public education.  Seventeen of our 50 largest cities have high school graduation rates below 50%.

Our health care system, where the decision-making and the control of the dollars are both in the hands of insurance companies, is broken.

And our continued reliance on foreign oil is a disaster waiting to happen; the past summer’s oil shock is likely just a taste of what will come as global demand grows and supply dries up.

On the other hand … not long ago I received the following from a reader:

“Within 10 years, the internal combustion engine as a primary propulsion engine for human transportation, will become obsolete.

“My argument supporting this prediction is based on the simple laws of physics. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, it simply changes form.

“Presently, the kinetic energy of a moving vehicle is wasted when the brakes are applied, as heat generated from the friction of the brake pads acting upon the rotors or brake drums. This heat energy dissipates and contributes to global warming (see, I got you to smile).

“The primary propulsion engine of the future will be an electric motor or motors powered by the car’s battery.

“Regenerative braking, a built-in function of the motors, will capture that kinetic energy of the moving vehicle as the brakes are applied and store it as electrical energy in the car’s battery to be re-used.

“An on-board, constant rpm Capstone Turbine micro-turbine engine (diesel, gasoline, LP-gas, unrefined wellhead gas or a hydrogen fuel cell) will act as a range extender power plant generating electrical energy to power the car when the car battery voltage has depleted to a threshold sufficient to trigger charging.

“The reuse of energy captured during regenerative braking is why the electrical propulsion vehicle is more efficient, getting many more miles traveled from a gallon of diesel fuel or gasoline.

“A solar panel integrated into the roof of the vehicle will charge the battery when the car is in the sunlight and power cabin ventilation of the parked vehicle. The sunlight that now heats the interior of a parked car on a hot day will be captured as electrical energy and stored in the car’s battery for future use or used to ventilate the cabin to keep it at ambient temperature.

“Future labor agreements will adopt provisions to allow employees to plug-in their cars while at work so the battery will be recharged at the end of the workday. We will most likely see the building of many “solar carports” where folks can park in the shade and plug in their car battery charger while they go about their business.

“CleanPowerSystems is presently constructing just such a parking facility here in Apple Valley, CA at the St. Mary’s Regional Medical Center.

“My high-school chemistry teacher (1963), Mr. Bolliger, said it’s really a shame to use petroleum as a motor fuel because it is the basis of all plastics and synthetic materials.

“Perhaps that day is near when oil is no longer used as a primary motor fuel?

“Without any doubt we are entering a brave, new world. We must be brave, optimistic and ingenious to overcome the challenges that lie ahead.”

D.F. of Apple Valley, California

Which outlook is right?  You choose.  You can believe the United States’ best days are over and we are slowly slipping back toward dependence and bondage.  Or you can believe that “good old American ingenuity” will allow us once again to “overcome the challenges that lie ahead” and retain our position of global leadership.  Or you can choose something in between.

If your life has been full of disappointment, you may be inclined to adopt the former, pessimistic position.  And if you’re a self-made man or woman who has achieved success through hard work, you may be inclined to think it can be done again.  Or, again, you can choose something in the middle.

You will, of course, believe that your perception is correct, and that people who don’t see it your way just haven’t seen the light yet.  But the fact is that the reality they perceive is colored by their life’s experience, just as your reality is colored by your own experience.

Me, I’m an optimist, not least because life is a lot more fun when you look on the bright side.  It makes you healthier, more productive, and more fun to be with.

Your comments are welcome.

9 Responses to Is the U.S. Finished?

  1. Miguel Barbosa on December 9, 2008 at 5:31 pm


    Fantastic post. I love it when historical examples are used to explain financial circumstances. I have linked to your post in my nightly value investing links. At Let me know what you think.

    Also. Paul Kedrosky had a post recently on the roman credit crisis, you might be interested in checking that out.

    Best Regards,
    Miguel Barbosa

  2. Joe B. on December 14, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    Well done/said!

  3. Reader Feedback on the Future on December 19, 2008 at 10:06 am

    [...] Back on December 11, I reprinted letters from readers that predicted two contrasting visions of the future. [...]

  4. Goerge Bush on July 13, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    A country is finished when people stop believing in themselves and believe that the government is always against them because in democracy the government is by the people. Another pivotal aspect in declione of democracy is when the corporations are given more rights than the people without the responsibilities like we have seen during the cheney administration

  5. Impression UC on July 18, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    The one correct aspect of this post is that people are guided by their life experiences. Time will tell how America fares. I am an optimist, too. In general, Americans are extremely optimistic. Also, Americans are extremely unappreciative of what they do have. Maybe another Great Depression would be good for the American people? Too many Americans have forgotten that very recently in their past, their ancestors were unwanted in their home countries. America’s forefathers came to the United States to seek a better life and freedom. Unfortunately, the social experiment in America is funded by money. It is impossible for people to live in harmony and a civilized world without plentiful monetary backing. All people are subject to the imperfections of the human psyche, and our history is full of examples of human cruelties. Human beings will never be able to defeat greed, manipulation, and cruelty. This can be masked, albeit temporarily, by money. We as a species must try, however, to be harmonious because without an attempt we become less than human. It is the irony of being imperfect and having reason. We will never succeed, but we must try.

  6. Cyrus on January 9, 2011 at 6:39 am

    I have been adamant that the USA will be a the main actor in years to come. It may have less of a dominate role because of globalization, but will still be a major force.

    As the world economy is moving from West to East, there is solice that America will still have untap resources, advanced technology, and military might. The problem with the next global superpower China is that all business is under state control. This model will be followed my many countries. There are pro and con to this ideology, but this model will not be accepted in the USA.

    Our knowledge to build great technologies will always be here. We will be a consumer driven nation, but we will also be an exporter of goods and services. Our healthcare is second to none. Everybody from all over the world wants to get treated here. If we are able to repeal Obamacare and fix Medicare, tort reform, immigration, and Social Security, we should be able to service everybody in America.

    The problem we face is the politician who promises everything and delievers little. These politicians are puppets to the New World Order- the Banks. This country from the beginning was screw by the banks. It took a private citizen, JP Morgan, to bail out the USA. That led to the creation of the Federal Reserves. This is a cartel of banks that manipulate the dollar. They took the role of the Congress that it is printing money. It loans the money to the government, and in return, the government pays back in interest and principle. These banks is bankrupting this country. We need to lessen the role of the Federal Reserves and give the role back to the Treasury. Congress is the only entity that can print money. That is written in the Constitution.

    Finally, this country is not finished. As one of your commenter said, “America is finished when people stop believing in themselves and that democracy is a government controlled by the people.” We will be sharing a globalized power with other countries (China, India, Russia). We will be the gatekeepers for peace as we help friends in the Middle East (Saudi Arabia, Israel) and Asia (Japan, Taiwan). It may be a good thing afterall. Sharing the burden of power with other countries. These countries cannot deny us or ignore us. They need us as much we need them. We are a consumer driven nation and these countries need us to buy their goods. So, the outlook for America will be modified. The dollar will be the reserve currency. English will be the international language for business. We will not even notice this major transformation. Many wont feel the effects. It is like we are outsourcing some of our responsiblities to other nations.

  7. Ray on June 29, 2011 at 8:16 am

    I think we’re screwed. China and Russia are seeking to undermine every aspect of our country, and it seems to me that they are doing a good job of it. Their proxies North Korea and Iran who would love to nuke us are getting closer to that capability every day, while our president and congress are disarming us. As for the U.S. constitution, it is only as good as the government we elect. We are one or two Supreme Court Justices away from this once hallowed document being stripped to the status of “living document”, which is to say, it means whatever the Justices want it to mean. Meanwhile, we the people are becoming more dumbed down by the hour. Our pre-occupation with “me” and our unwillingness to face head on the ever multiplying, increasingly insurmountable problems of our nation has doomed us. We are spending ourselves into oblivion and too few seem to care, as long as we keep getting that government check. In light of all this, I doubt if our solar electric cars are going to save us. However, I’m not all together without hope. Prayer is a powerful thing, and God will intervene if we turn away from our sin and cry out to him. So wake up America! Raise those eyes from your I phone and look around. Then get on your knees and start praying, its our only hope..

  8. dave buls on July 6, 2011 at 4:14 pm


    Just saw your article from 4 years ago……we’re fucked. Elites, who have lived in luxury for so long, are facing the possibility that they might be poor, would rather die than give it up. The saying “it’s much better to never have had money, than to have had it and lose it” is so true. My stepdaughter is testimony to that. Her dad made a ton of money and spoiled her, and today she’s a bitch because she doesn’t have it anymore. Now combine that with the wealthy having armies that can defend them, and we need to run for the border. The wealthy will do one of two things, 1) destroy the country before they lose their wealth, or 2) flee the country with their wealth. Either way, we’re fucked.

  9. Eldridge Currie on February 15, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    The United States is finished. I live in Vancouver, BC where 50% speak English as a second language, so it might be easier for me to learn Chinese as China or India is the NEXT world power.

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